tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2194055897691199164.post6916707164581509589..comments2024-03-23T08:42:01.705+00:00Comments on People's Cycling Front of South Gloucestershire: Nicewaycode : wake up, time to die.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2194055897691199164.post-55739068074873609192013-08-20T15:48:43.665+01:002013-08-20T15:48:43.665+01:00Agree with others vehicular cycling is totally uns...Agree with others vehicular cycling is totally unsuited to the majority of the population and not what we should be aiming for....however with the shite road conditions we currently have it does seem to be a safer way of travelling than hugging the kerb or cosily embracing the false sense of security a tin of green paint creates.<br /><br />But is it not going to be slightly tricky pointing out the hypocrisy of niceway suggesting ignoring infrastructure in place whilst also noting that charging lemming-like* down the left of buses is not the smartest idea?<br /><br />We want dutch style infrastructure but in the meantime...<br /><br />*yes undertakes can be done safely but you do see some silly stuff too.Donkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01919359296842026180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2194055897691199164.post-55476991630993344782013-08-17T10:15:36.259+01:002013-08-17T10:15:36.259+01:00The danger here is setting up vehicular cyclists a...The danger here is setting up vehicular cyclists as the bogeymen. I'm amazed that they've had so much power in the Uk since the 30s - through their efforts alone preventing Britain from being a Dutch cycling paradise. Truth is councils are reluctant to create proper facilities because they find it difficult with their current mind sets: that there isn't space, not enough cyclists, can't slow down traffic, etc.<br /><br />I'm all in favour of Dutch style facilities but such facilities are sadly almost nonexistent in the UK - a pedestrian pavement with a cycle symbol isn't anywhere close. Until this happens then I've found vehicular cycling to be useful advice and that includes not using painted lines to undertake buses. Of course expecting cyclists to have to be vehicular is insane but the road system in the UK is insane.Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16055860489565712064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2194055897691199164.post-41131979185078818692013-08-12T16:10:28.170+01:002013-08-12T16:10:28.170+01:00This would be the same Mr Franklin who told us tha...This would be the same Mr Franklin who told us that all you needed to cross dangerous junctions is to be able to <a href="http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/john-franklin-and-cyclecraft-cycle-safely-by-turning-yourself-into-mark-cavendish/" rel="nofollow">ride at 32 km/h</a>. What a preposterous idea, and what an odious ableist little man.<br /><br />I'm in my early 30s, not entirely unfit, and I own a reasonably maintained seven-speed bike. I can jump across junctions at 32 km/h if I wanted (although hub gears make it hard to make the shifts in time). However, let's make a little list of people I know who can't:<br /><br />* [name redacted] who is relatively unfit right now but is trying to use cycling to get in shape<br />* [name redacted] who suffers from MS but still rides a speed-limited electrically assisted bike<br />* my student friends who can only afford third-hand clunkers with rust-covered chains<br />* the 500 school kids who stream past my window (can you tell I'm in the Netherlands?) before classes in the morning on single-speeds - if your kids grow out of their bikes every two years, you're not going to buy them top of the line models<br />* [names redacted], recently retired, weren't very sporty during their working lives, but are looking for something to do with their time and money now that they're in their late 60s and early 70s<br /><br />Note that in the blog post I linked to, commenters make the argument that 32 km/h is an attainable speed to any serious rider. That much is true for people like myself, but it's not something that any of the people I listed above could or would do. Those people are excluded from the joy of cycling in the disturbingly narrow world of the vehicular cyclist. The exact same groups of people - children, the eldery, the unfit and disabled - would have problems with overtaking a bus, which requires physical ability to get up to a speed that isn't five times slower than the surrounding traffic, and a significant amount of self esteem and confidence in your abilities which they likely wouldn't have. bz2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12501944795613124511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2194055897691199164.post-77265446503694350212013-08-12T15:32:10.605+01:002013-08-12T15:32:10.605+01:00Before blogs there was Usenet, and it was all vehi...Before blogs there was Usenet, and it was all vehicularists shouting down anyone else. We could've used a variant of this law (applied to the other John F.).Jymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15675802996264542565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2194055897691199164.post-32469626442305324932013-08-12T15:05:46.782+01:002013-08-12T15:05:46.782+01:00I approve too. Well said.I approve too. Well said.Matt Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613567729331437973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2194055897691199164.post-89648380123065682652013-08-12T15:00:44.833+01:002013-08-12T15:00:44.833+01:00Brilliant - More of this please.
Brilliant - More of this please.<br />Hairy Buddhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13358292028553879590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2194055897691199164.post-39004088126739802932013-08-12T07:33:31.252+01:002013-08-12T07:33:31.252+01:00I approve :-)I approve :-)David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.com